---
title: "The Four Pillars — Discipleship as a Forge"
description: "Brent Billings and Reed Dent consider how to create the right conditions for discipleship."
canonical: https://bema.jpamorgan.com/episodes/507
published: 2026-07-02
---

# The Four Pillars — Discipleship as a Forge

Creating the Right Conditions for Discipleship

- Published: 2026-07-02T08:00:00.000Z
- Episode slug: `507`
- Episode number: 507
- Session: 10
- People: Brent Billings, Reed Dent

## Description

Brent Billings and Reed Dent consider how to create the right conditions for discipleship.

## Show notes

Brent Billings and Reed Dent consider how to create the right conditions for discipleship. The Pastor by Eugene H. Peterson The Supper of the Lamb by Robert Farrar Capon

## Sources and machine-readable records

- [BEMA Podcast Explorer episode page](https://bema.jpamorgan.com/episodes/507)
- [Official BEMA source page](https://www.bemadiscipleship.com/507)
- [Episode JSON](https://api.bema.jpamorgan.com/v1/episodes/507)
- [Audio](https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/7d8cc2be-fe66-43fb-ada4-e62e2f8c00e7/4b65a8e1-3287-4877-a704-f4fe612aa280.mp3)